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Tom McDonald
@tom-mcdonald
03/17/10 09:05:29PM
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Carson Turner said:
some people would say that playing a dulcimer through an amp is nothing short of blasphemous.
Yeah, I get that a lot! I've had a few in my club tell me in so many words that it is somehow improper to play anything outside of the traditional tabbed-out-on-paper playlist, too. They're coming around, though.
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/17/10 08:35:23PM
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Connecting musically with children is indeed magical, and it sounds like that was the most successful part of Vicki's adventure.Just yesterday I brought my guitar, uke, autoharp, dulcimer, mandolin, pennywhistle and limberjack to my daughter's pre-school class. I did a few story/songs such as the Pete Seeger classics "Abiyoyo" and "The Frog" but also played some of the usual song suspects such as Tom Paxton's "The Marvelous Toy." I thought they would love the chorus ("It went zip when it moved and pop when it stopped . . .") but they were actually clapping excitedly in time with the music while I was still in the first lines of the first verse. I played a kid's song I translated from French that celebrates the diversity of animal life and had the kids acting like the animal mentioned in each verse. When I played the verse about the "snakes who slither in the grass" the kids all began wiggling on their bellies and converged in a big pile in the middle of the floor. The teachers all got a hearty laugh at that sight.The kids were enthralled with the fact that you could play a melody with a single finger on the dulcimer and of course they loved strumming the autoharp (which I have tuned diatonically, by the way, in order to double up on strings and get a fuller sound).The hit of the day, though, was the limberjack. He danced around while I sang "There ain't no bugs on me" and the kids couldn't get enough. Whenever I tried to stop they began clapping their hands in unison and chanting "more, more, more." Finally the teacher had to bribe them with blueberry muffins to allow me to escape and get on with my day.I didn't put out a donation bucket and didn't make any money. But the joy on the kids' faces (especially my daughter's) is worth more than any hourly wage anywhere.Thanks for indulging me; I had to share that fun with some folks I know would appreciate it.Cheers,D.T.
Tom McDonald
@tom-mcdonald
03/17/10 08:22:59PM
26 posts



Vicki, that sounds like fun. I've been following this thread, and I listened to a busker on trumpet near Dupont Circle in DC yesterday and got inspired. I was all set to take the plunge today and play the indoor outlet mall near the RDU airport. The place is only about 25% occupied, and could use a bit of livening up anyway. I figured that nobody knew me here, and the worst they could do was to throw me out. Sadly, they fight what would otherwise be tomb-like quiet with overbearing and inescapable overhead muzak. Most airport terminals are impossible to play in for the same reason. I'll try someplace else soon. I did play in a public area of the terminal in Boston yesterday, but quietly and in a fairly out of the way place. The probable reaction of my chief pilot if I were to salt my pilot hat with some singles and put it out for tips would not be good.This may already have been discussed: what about small battery powered amp and a mic or pickup? Seems to me you need at least a little more volume than you can get with a dulcimer.
Strumelia
@strumelia
03/17/10 07:56:22PM
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Carson Turner said:
The real fun busking though (my opinion)... - it's watching those little kids dance to a tune or hearing a story from someone about their now gone relative that "used to play that sort of music..."
Yes, my husband and i play fiddle/dulcimer/banjo for charity events sometimes and often for the local farmer's market. For those events we volunteer. My favorite part is when little children and toddlers start dancing around us in pure happiness- I love it! That's one reason I love to play right in with the people rather than on a stage area...i love when the children come up and touch my instrument gently in wonder, like it was magical. Awesome .
Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
03/17/10 07:48:34PM
2,157 posts



Congrats Vicki! My favorite place to "perform" is at any well populated public park. I don't often put out a figurative tin cup, but that's just me. When I have, though, I use a cigar box, seeded with a couple bucks and change. It's a good size, not too big or too small.
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/17/10 05:38:14PM
1,857 posts



Vicki, you definitely deserve congratulations for gathering the moxie to play in public. I second the notion that you should open up your case for tips. Put a dollar or two and some coins in there as a little nudge in the right direction.And then you might ingratiate yourself with those exercising by putting out orange wedges and playing Springsteen: "'Cause tramps like us, baby we were born to run!"OK, maybe that's not the best song, but on a rails to trails area you might play a bunch of old railroad songs.As folkfan has said, you found a nice place to play where you won't interrupt traffic or anything, but people exercising don't usually carry around spare change, so if you really want to earn a little beer money you might find another spot.Keep up the good work.D.T.
folkfan
@folkfan
03/17/10 03:22:47PM
357 posts



Vicki, it sounds as if you picked a good site for playing in public. Congratulations. Vicki Miles said:
Hi Andy...Yes, it was a rails to trail. It is the section that goes thru town. There is a playground, several picnic areas and the depot, in the area.

Andy Huffman said:
Bravo Vicki! Bravo! What a great story. Was this on the rails to trail?
Robin Clark
@robin-clark
03/16/10 07:40:46PM
239 posts



Well done Vicki !!!!!I believe that doing what you did was a very adventurous act - and it will help you build the skills to play in public. And the experience will make you a better musician and performer without you even realising just how much you are learning.Good on you!!!Robin Vicki Miles said:
I busked this afternoon. Well, is it busking if you don't get any tips?! ~8-)

I had 20 minutes between my music lesson and picking up my grandson. I went to the riverwalk, sat on a bench and played. It was a very difficult thing for me to do. I've never played solo, in public. I took a deep breath and started playing. The world did not end, I did not throw up and no one noticed when I made a mistake.

Most people just walked by, some smiled and nodded. One little girl asked what I was playing...she thought is was some kind of violin. I told her about my dulcimer. In those short 20 minutes, I grew more as a musician than I have in years of playing in private or a group.

As for blocking traffic, I didn't. (People were exercising so they didn't stop, but they may next time. If they do, there is plenty of room to get off the trail). If they didn't like it, all they had to do was move a few steps away to be out of earshot.

My dulcimer was much quieter than the thumping music in the parking lot, the noisy motorcycles or crying kids. I'm going back...soon...but I'm taking a tin cup. ~8-)
Rod Westerfield
@rod-westerfield
03/16/10 06:59:52PM
109 posts



way to go Vicky.. just lat your case by where you are playing.. easier to hit.... :) :)
John Henry
@john-henry
03/16/10 06:11:32PM
258 posts



Congrats Vickie! You have broken the ice; may I say that a tin cup is a difficult target to aim for whilst on the move, LOL, give em a chance!!!JohnH Vicki Miles said:
I busked this afternoon. Well, is it busking if you don't get any tips?! ~8-)

I had 20 minutes between my music lesson and picking up my grandson. I went to the riverwalk, sat on a bench and played. It was a very difficult thing for me to do. I've never played solo, in public. I took a deep breath and started playing. The world did not end, I did not throw up and no one noticed when I made a mistake.

Most people just walked by, some smiled and nodded. One little girl asked what I was playing...she thought is was some kind of violin. I told her about my dulcimer. In those short 20 minutes, I grew more as a musician than I have in years of playing in private or a group.

As for blocking traffic, I didn't. (People were exercising so they didn't stop, but they may next time. If they do, there is plenty of room to get off the trail). If they didn't like it, all they had to do was move a few steps away to be out of earshot.

My dulcimer was much quieter than the thumping music in the parking lot, the noisy motorcycles or crying kids. I'm going back...soon...but I'm taking a tin cup. ~8-)
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
03/16/10 06:00:37PM
1,564 posts



Cool, Vicki!I plan to try playing outside in a public place-- a college green, I think-- just to get used to playing where people can see and hear me.Let us know how all goes the next time. Forget a tin cup-- go with a bucket! :)
John Henry
@john-henry
03/16/10 04:28:43PM
258 posts



To busk! Or not to busk! That is a question. Another is to ask why busk? I live in a city which gets its fair share of tourists, and I live about 12 miles from a city that probably gets a few more!!! (Bath) In both places it is possible to busk, and indeed it is to a certain degree encouraged, with the obvious proviso's that no nuisance occurs, no risk to health and safety is presented etc. People listen or not, is their right, and they may or may not put money in your hat, case ,whatever. Why busk? I have a friend who wished to accompany me to a festival in France; over the course of a few weekends in Bath he made the money he wanted, long hours tho', and cold, and sometimes just a bit dangerous! For me the initial push came because I was faced with doing a performance (I hate that term), I was to play in front of an audience and while I had played in pub sessions, or for friends and family etc, I had never been on my own with a dulcimer (hammered I should add) committed to making music for others to listen to. It was a salutary experience, I had not known just how fast it was to use up material that I had learnt or how often someone would ask if you could play ?......? (nearly always 'Duelling Banjo's on the grounds that I was playing some sort of 'hillbilly instrument') I learnt a lot from my first time,and gained in confidence as a result, and would never assume that everyone welcomed me or my music. I am reasonably sure that some places/situations gain from having buskers perform for whatever reason. My interest in dulcimers certainly grew from seeing a hammered dulcimer player named Jim Couza playing in front of Bath Abbey. He did it for money, I did it for the experience, tho' a little bit of extra cash did help the ego! I am not sure if our mountain dulcimer (minus amplification) is the right instrument for the hustle and bustle of a busy town centre, and if it is amplified, then like other instruments, it may be seen as becoming intrusive. It is always wise to check at least two things: Is a licence required fron the appropriate authority, and is there some sort of pecking order in existence among regular buskers at the place that you propose to play .my regards, JohnHPS On reading thro' the above I see some confusion may exist about the term "hammered"; it does not refer to me being under 'the influence', despite what Strumelia may have remarked upon in the past in relation to Rod's mountain dew, and my job of guardian of same at our past anniversity parties!!! Carson Turner said:
I've never been to Chicago - I can only imagine it's a pretty packed place the likes of NYC, London, Paris, Munich, etc... Those have a long and storied history of street performance (busking is simply playing in a public place for tips - so most "street performers" whether hired and licensed or begging for alms are buskers) that has at times even extended into some pretty important religious and political change movements.

I don't see that a performer takes up any more space than does a hot-dog or balloon vendor, nor does he impede traffic any more. The street performer certainly takes up less space than does a 'sidewalk sale'. He's no louder than the city's regular traffic and much less loud than a police or ambulance siren. He can't compete with a 500watt car-stereo rolling boom-box or even with a stock Harley Davidson. He can't take up all that much sidewalk that a normal person can't walk around him with minimal effort and if he's gathered a crowd then that would imply that someone wants to hear/see the performance, a passerby might want to notice that and take a minute to see why.

He doesn't inconvenience the foot traffic anymore than does a group of tourists standing in place staring at the rooftops. No more than does that couple saying goodbye with a long kiss - right in the middle of the doorway. No more than do old-friends meeting on the street and deciding to stop there in the center of the walk to reminisce on old times. Far less than do those poorly behaved children zipping in and out of every crevice and corner they can find while mom obliviously chats on her cell...

He's unlike any other business person you encounter - his product is try before you buy and he won't be all that offended if you enjoy the entertainment and don't offer to pay. He doesn't bombard you with billboards and bus-placards extolling the virtue of his particular art over all others, creating a visual cacophony of material greed, he just puts it out there for you - free. Take it, or leave it.

He can't, while performing, give the "can you spare a dime" pinch that the typical vagrant beggar offers and at least is offering some service - a moment of entertainment - in return for his lunch.

Given the pace of our society these days, he serves the needed function of slowing things down just a little. Of course, some people don't have enough time to slow down and listen to a musician or watch a mime or hear a story... they're in a hurry to reach the end of the race. They have places to be, things to do, people to meet, ... how sad for them - they don't even notice the birds in front of Saint Paul's.

I'm in no hurry to hasten the end of my life though - I'll take a minute to see if the busker can entertain or inform me. If not, I move on. If he can, I toss him some coin. He has an important social function that a free society can ill afford to restrain.

Just my thoughts though. Some people disagree.
folkfan
@folkfan
03/16/10 12:55:05PM
357 posts



Andy Huffman said:
it becomes a matter of free speach. The current ruling is you cannot prohibit free speach in any public area where it has a tradition of assembly.
It's funny people take art and culture to be a nuisance. Expression is shunned for quiet in a city overrun with the sounds of traffic, people, and technology.
Andy, I'm all for freedom of expression, but I retain the right to use an off switch on my TV if the music or "Expression" becomes something I don't want to listen too. It's difficult to turn off a street performance.The force sometimes needed to get around some of them reminds me of fast flowing water over stones. You get turbulence and rapids in the normal flow of pedestrian traffic. And when you only have a few minutes to get to your train stop, a slowing or stoppage of the flow of foot traffic is a pain. If a performer is in a park and out of the way, that's a different story.And as for taking art and culture as being a nuisance, well, a small jazz band playing in the canyon created by State Street in Chicago doesn't add to the cultural level of the city. It simply adds to the decibel level "in a city overrun with the sounds of traffic, people, and technology." It isn't the icing on the cake, it's the straw that breaks the camel's back.Some people call graffiti art, and freedom of expression, to me it's vandalism.
folkfan
@folkfan
03/15/10 10:36:51PM
357 posts



Vicki Miles said:
I'm not shoveling anything! I'm wondering though...I've been to Chicago and experienced the street performers. I think there is a difference between them and busking. Aren't the street performers licensed, usually found in the same location and trying to make a living? I think of buskers as transient entertainment...does that make sense, is there a difference?

Usually the street performers are licensed, but they are still out there with their instrument cases open for tips. They aren't paid performers. There are festivals around the city that also have stage venues and street performers. However the unlicensed busker still gets around. At least with a licensing system one can hope for some measure of performance level, though you couldn't prove it by me.My objection to most of them is simply that I hate listening to them. Music to me is very personal, I like what I like, and I don't listen to what I don't like. And I certainly object to having certain sounds bombard my ears including, rock, jazz, blues. And many of the street musicians are doing that sort of music. Many are now amped and the decibel level is deafening. I actually had to walk through a crowd of listeners to a small jazz band (loud on drums) and past the booming sound equipment. I clapped my hands over my ears to at least dampen the sound a bit and charged through. There was no way around the group and crowd unless I wanted to step out into on coming traffic. Not a good idea.I really hate street performers. I'll pay to go to a concert, but with street performers that you can hear a couple of blocks away, forget it. The only town that has had street performers and buskers that I enjoyed was Edinburgh. There were bagpipers in the park. And they weren't crowding the sidewalks. I'll take a bagpiper over a jazz or blues band any day. heheheheheee
Robin Clark
@robin-clark
03/15/10 09:26:48PM
239 posts



My friend Chris and I are working up old fiddle and dance tunes (Appalachian and Celtic) for a MD and tenor guitar/mandola busking and coffee house duet once the weather starts to warm up and the tourists arrive.RobinBTW - My registered company is Busker Limited !
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/15/10 07:50:48PM
1,857 posts



Dearest Folkfan and Vicki,First, there is no doubt that any kind of gathering on the streets can become a nuisance, but street performers are certainly no more guilty of causing problems in that regard than is anyone else. Lousy drivers, for example, are much more of a hazard, I would argue.I lived in Chicago one summer in the 1980s and discovered a guy playing sax on the street as I walked with thousands of others to Grant Park for the Blues Festival (it might have been the R&B festival, since I attended both that year). He was playing a jazzy version of "Rubber Ducky" from Sesame Street and was just twisting and turning that tune in every direction possible. He played all by himself but really had some pep in his step and a bunch of us were dancing around him. He was far better than any of the big-name, high-priced acts we saw on the stages at the festival.If anyone wants to hear a celebration of that kind of performance, check out Joni Mitchell's "Real Good For Free": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PljZrArrb3k In my mind, you have to put up with the occasional inconvenience if you want the chance to discover those diamonds in the rough. The problem folkfan describes is genuine, but it is not a problem with busking; it is a problem with a lack of consideration of others that permeates our culture.To answer Vicki's question, in some cities and some neighborhoods, you do indeed need a license to perform. In Faneuil Hall in Boston, for example, there are elaborate auditions for a limited number of licenses to perform in the summer. The competition is high as is the quality of the entertainment. A friend of mine did a juggling act there (Peter Panic if any of you have seen him or are on your way to Boston) and he made enough money in the summer to support himself all winter long.Maybe there is a difference between that and busking, but he still passed around a hat for his pay (actually, he rode a unicycle while someone chosen from the audience sat on his shoulders holding a hat for tips).I think anytime you rely on tips for your performance for your income, it is pretty informal.Now, to work out Rubber Ducky on the dulcimer . . .D.T.
folkfan
@folkfan
03/15/10 06:19:25PM
357 posts



I'm afraid I'm going to be in trouble here, (Heck, I KNOW, I'm getting in to deep doo doo with this), but Buskers for the most part really annoy me.Part of the problem is that in the canyons of Chicago, the sound of a sax, or horn player, or drummer can just bounce off the concrete walls, sidewalks, and road and create a cacophony of noise. Some Buskers, individuals and groups, just don't follow the rules of etiquette in that they take up a large portion of sidewalk room or place themselves in the middle of the sidewalk and disrupt the flow of pedestrians. So trying to get around them as quickly as possible is impossible. Especially if they have managed to gather any sort of a crowd. There was on idiot who chose to perform just outside entrance to one of the metra train stations and the log jam he created was a real nuisance as it was at the top of a long flight of stairs down.To me there is nothing more annoying than trying not to trip over an open instrument case carelessly place in front of the player/players. The feeling that I have to throw money into it because I've had to listen to music that I didn't want to hear in the first place is just plain irritating.
Ken Hulme
@ken-hulme
03/15/10 03:54:38PM
2,157 posts



I don't busk, per se - I don't put out a money collector. It's illegal here, I think. You don't see anyone doing it. But I do often play downtown in the park that runs between the two main streets. I get lots of "what is that?" as well as "Is that a dulcimer?" Always a good lead-in to explain about the instrument.Setting in the park playing is the perfect opportunity to people watch as well as get in some playing time somewhere else than home. Here near Tampa I can play outdoors pretty much year around.There is a fair amount of dulcimer activity here. During winter we have a lot of Snowbirds from New England and southern Canada, and there several active snowbird dulcimer groups connected to various condos, trailer camps and the like. But once they find out I don't play that other style, and don't play from tab that they can copy, then I'm not so welcome to their closed little groups with their focused-on-one-tuning teachers. There are only a handful of resident dulcimer players and we get together occasionally during the off season.
Robin Thompson
@robin-thompson
03/15/10 03:28:12PM
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The dulcimer has been called a lot of different/cool names that could be worked into a fun song! :)
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/15/10 03:21:16PM
1,857 posts



Yes, that line would work great, especially with a rim shot or other quick musical exclamation point right at the end. Strumelia said:
Dusty Turtle said:
As others have suggested, making a joke about not playing a request is probably the best route when you really don't know the material requested.

Dusty,
Having to do with that, one of my favorite things to say between tunes when we are playing out in public is:
"We've had a request from the audience.....but we've decided to keep playing anyway." Always gets a good laugh! :D
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/15/10 03:18:01PM
1,857 posts



Andy,There's an old kids' song [meaning an old song for kids, not a song for old kids ;)]by Tom Paxton about the "Marvelous Toy," the chorus of which isIt went zip! when it movedAnd bop! when it stoppedAnd whirr! when it stood still.I never knew just what it wasAnd I guess I never will.It might be cool to make up a song about the mystery instrument and sing that whever people ask what you are playing.D.T. Andy Huffman said:
I am dying to know what people in New England would request from someone busking with a dulcimer. Probably along the lines of "an explanation of what the heck that thing is???"
Strumelia
@strumelia
03/15/10 02:26:55PM
2,416 posts



Dusty Turtle said:
As others have suggested, making a joke about not playing a request is probably the best route when you really don't know the material requested.
Dusty,Having to do with that, one of my favorite things to say between tunes when we are playing out in public is:"We've had a request from the audience.....but we've decided to keep playing anyway." Always gets a good laugh! :D
Dusty Turtle
@dusty
03/15/10 02:15:04PM
1,857 posts



I just found this thread and realize you've all probably moved on, but I do have a story to share.I used to play mandolin in an informal trio (guitar, bass, mandolin) of friends. We had a very limited repertoire. We used to play the Dylan song "You Ain't Going Nowhere" until the guitarist wrote an original tune the rhythm of which sounded just like the Dylan tune, so we stopped playing the Dylan tune. Once we were asked to entertain at a small barbeque in the Berkeley hills and in about a half-hour had run through all the songs we had worked on. But just as we were about to tell everyone we were done, someone requested "You Ain't Going Nowhere." With smiles on our faces we broke into it right away, milked it for all we could, each taking a few solos, singing all the lyrics two or three times through, and then finally lifting our instruments in the air at the end as we said goodnight before any more requests could come our way.It was a great climax to our short set and until now we were the only ones who knew that the song requested was the only song not part of our set that we could possibly have played!When you play in public, in fact, you don't need a large repertoire because most folks only listen while they are waiting for their bus, as they shop for vegetables at the market, or whatever. They are not expecting to sit down and be entertained for 90 minutes straight. I would think the idea of learning some of the songs that are likely to be requested would be all that you need to play with confidence in public and not be afraid of a request.Then again, on one of his live albums, Loudon Wainwright III is asked to play a song and responds, "Perhaps I'll play that another time. But my therapist has encouraged me to be more assertive with women. So I'm sorry, but no." As others have suggested, making a joke about not playing a request is probably the best route when you really don't know the material requested. It is another example of Strumelia's axiom about smiling at your public rather than screwing your face into weird contortions as you stare at the fretboard.I've never seen a dulcimer player busking, but if I do, I'll empty my wallet.Cheers,D.T.
B. Ross Ashley
@b-ross-ashley
11/24/09 02:18:32PM
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Not all of us Northerners are Yanks, thankee. ::grin::And there's a reason the most sought-after busking locations in TO are inside the subway stations! Carson Turner said:
Of course, for all you "northerners" (aka "Yankees"); it's gonna get cold out there - you should move down here to the beach.
Tom McDonald
@tom-mcdonald
11/23/09 04:06:48PM
26 posts



Strumelia said:
Then again, one of my favorite jokes to say between tunes when we play in public is:
"We've had a request from the audience......but we're going to keep playing anyway."
Always gets a good laugh! ;D
Great thread here. This reminds me of playing at my parent's house. Can't remember if it was harmonica or dulcimer that day.Me: "Any requests?" (I really should have known better).My mom: "Could you play somewhere over the hill and far away?Me: "Let me look and see if I have ... hey!"
B. Ross Ashley
@b-ross-ashley
11/15/09 11:38:06AM
59 posts



Oh, sure, Andy. My buddy Jason who plays the subway stations here does jazz improv in the style of the late, great Canadian guitar player Lenny Breau. Nobody would ever have wanted to hear Lenny sing either. Andy Huffman said:
Does anyone play strictly instrumentals when busking? This is something I would love to do when I get good enough but I am afraid my singing will never um, actually be singing. I'd rather just let the instrument talk for me.
Glad you called my attention back to this thread, actually, there is a great little routine that Long John Baldry used to do about busking in London ... Don't Try to Lay no Boogie-Woogie on the King of Rock and Roll .
B. Ross Ashley
@b-ross-ashley
08/29/09 12:11:37AM
59 posts



I'd have to get a permit to do that on the sidewalk in Toronto; I've played in the parks, but not got any money. The Toronto Transit Commission issues special licences to musicians good enough to play in the subway stations. They have an annual public audition at the Canadian National Exposition, our national "County Fair". Some of the best guitarists and harp and erhu players I've ever heard play Eglinton Station, a block from my apartment! I'd never get in.
Sally Pena
@sally-pena
08/23/09 08:15:21PM
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Carson... went to the Post article, read the whole thing and watched the videos... totally unreal.
razyn
@razyn
08/23/09 07:04:03PM
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Carson Turner said:
There's a story out there from another musical experiment wherein Joshua Bell went busking in DC with his $2,000,000 strad violin.
Here's a version of the Joshua Bell story that ran in the Washington Post (Sunday Magazine): http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/04/AR2007040401721.html Another thing you learn is that Metro stations get a big volume and turnover of pedestrian traffic -- but almost all of the people are rushing somewhere.Dick
Sally Pena
@sally-pena
08/23/09 05:12:21PM
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I don't know why but, I just went websurfing... and found myself at the official Eric Clapton site. Did you know that he used to go busking to make a living!!! You just never know.
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/23/09 04:46:29PM
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Carson Turner said:Dana Carvey used to do an absolutely hilarious bit on this idea. After seeing it, I started watching guitar players and he was SO right.OMG too funny! LOLI find that fiddler players tend to make the weirdest unconscious mouth moves while playing.(rock stars don't count since they do it on purpose) LOL
Sally Pena
@sally-pena
08/23/09 02:21:00PM
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Super thread, Carson... sounds like most of you have a "group" to play with. My fellow dulcimer players here are pretty shy, wouldn't consider playing "in public" and, I haven't lived here long enough (much less know enough...) to have other instrumentalists to play with. I'd have to do it solo, I think.
Strumelia
@strumelia
08/23/09 01:40:24PM
2,416 posts



Carson Turner said:
One of the reasons I posted this thread is to learn about what's requested though. Different genres get different requests but some are almost 'must know' if you're out there. When we do string-band stuff, we expect at least one request from Oh Brother Where art Thou . Playing an Irish or Celtic style on whistle I always expect to hear requests for Danny Boy, Scotland the Brave, Irish Washerwoman, etc... the tunes people associate with and know. The old-time religion people always seem to wanna hear Old Rugged Cross, I'll Fly Away, and the like. Dixieland: When the Saints... and Just a Closer Walk. Even mimes get requests - "do the thing where you're in a box". So one key to success is finding out what it is people want to hear and playing that.

I was out once with a bluegrass quartet and, being at the beach, someone asked if we knew any beach music. We did Under the Boardwalk and Blue Moon in bluegrass - it was hilarious. You just have to make a list of what people might expect a dulcimer to be playing and be ready to play some. I just don't know what goes on such a list for dulcimer.
Well most people in the northeast here have never even seen a dulcimer and wouldn't know what is played on it. I'm usually playing OT with my fiddler and sometimes I play banjo or dulcimer. Usually the audience doesn't know any OT or fiddle tunes, which is what we play. Invariably we get requests for bluegrass stuff, Dueling Banjos, Dixie Chicks, pop tunes.....none of which we play at all. We play what we play and are good at, and most of the time people just listen and seem to enjoy that it's 'different' from what they're used to.One tip I *can* give- and that is don't sit and scowl at your fingerboard while playing. Musicians have a tendency to screw their faces into weird expressions while lost in the playing process. Instead, look around and smile at people and look like you are having a good time for goodness sake- it's infectious!
Strumelia
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08/23/09 12:15:12PM
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Sally Pena said:
Great stories, folks! Keep 'em coming... maybe I'll get brave enough, yet! So, do you just play whatever you want to or, do you know enough tunes to do requests? I think that scares me a lot!
Hi Sally, I never take requests, because I only play tunes I know I can do ok. When people ask me to do something, I'll just say "Well I'm afraid I don't play that one, but I can play this one...."Then again, one of my favorite jokes to say between tunes when we play in public is: "We've had a request from the audience......but we're going to keep playing anyway." Always gets a good laugh! ;D
Sally Pena
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08/23/09 11:38:17AM
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Great stories, folks! Keep 'em coming... maybe I'll get brave enough, yet! So, do you just play whatever you want to or, do you know enough tunes to do requests? I think that scares me a lot!
Sally Pena
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08/22/09 10:01:02PM
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Sure glad someone explained "busking". My friend, Jane, who's been traveling the western states and canada for the last month really laughed when I told her about "busking". Her husband was a Scot and I guess "busking" is quite the tradition in Great Britain and so, she knew about it. She figures he's up above laughing himself silly about my interest in it. Seems a friend would tell a friend about such matters, yes? Oh well, now I'm educated on "busking". Maybe I'll give it a whirl one of these days.
Sally Pena
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08/22/09 02:33:37PM
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Hmmm... how'd I get here? Sorry about that, folks. I think I need to clean house... (G)
Sally Pena
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08/22/09 02:32:33PM
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We could call for rain, get all muddy, naked and drunk... no more ill feelings or war... what'cha think?
Sally Pena
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08/22/09 02:18:58PM
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Great idea, Ron... I think that might work! Again, refer to Woodstock!
Sally Pena
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08/22/09 11:52:41AM
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Thanks for sharing, Nancy. I really enjoyed that website... sent it on to my daughters, both who are very interested in music and avid proponents of world peace, especially through music. They maybe are already aware of the website but, if not, they're gonna be so impressed that their Mom passed it on... see, you've made me a hero!
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